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Liam Robins's avatar

I agree that since we don't know whether AI is conscious or what conscious experiences they might have, it's possible that by creating them we are inadvertently causing them to suffer. But it's also possible that we're causing them to feel great pleasure, or to feel some more neutral emotion, or to feel nothing at all. So sure, it's not "safe" to create advanced AIs with our current (lack of) knowledge about consciousness, but that doesn't mean it's bad in expectation.

It's the same sort of argument that human natalists vs. anti-natalists have. Anti-natalists argue that since your child might live a bad life, you're harming them by giving birth, and therefore you shouldn't have children. Pro-natalists respond by saying that even though there's a chance the child might live a bad life, there's a greater chance they'll live a good life (assuming you're a responsible parent), therefore it's good for you to have children.

"Pause AI for the sake of the AIs themselves" only makes sense if you believe in one of two positions:

A. You believe that conscious AIs are likely to suffer on net (i.e. they'll likely feel much more suffering than pleasure). That could be true, but I've yet to hear a compelling argument for that belief. or

B. You believe that it's wrong to risk causing harm, even if it comes with the opportunity to do an equivalent or greater amount of good. There are definitely moral frameworks that posit this, but there are also moral frameworks (e.g. utilitarianism) that do not.

Elan Moritz's avatar

interesting analysis ... so I did a couple of things, first write a novel about a sentient LLM; it's a pretty sad story (Interview with an LLM), and then after doing that, decided to explore the possibilities more seriously , and that led to thinking about Minimal Viable Sentience; the idea that Viable sentience refers to the threshold at which an entity—biological or artificial—possesses enough subjective experience and self-regulation to warrant moral consideration, moving beyond mere programmed responses. IN any case that led to a pretty serious exploration captured in my recent book, https://leanpub.com/ViableSentience_CanLLMsFeelAndSuffer

lots of stuff discussed there, including Valence, a key indicator is the ability to experience valenced (positive or negative) mental states, such as pain, pleasure.

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